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In this video I talk about the Messenger (Trials of Osiris pulse rifle) and its ability to randomly roll the perk “Desperado”, a perk previously exclusive to the Pinnacle weapon “Redrix’s Claymore” & “Redrix’s Broadsword” and why I dislike that because of how it invalidates the identity & legacy of a Pinnacle weapon that could have easily returned as an exotic in the post-sunsetting world of Destiny 2 Beyond Light.
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Messenger, that perk doesn't belong to you.
To be clear, the point of my argument is I'd rather Redrix return as an exotic than Messenger with a nerfed version of its perk.
Bring me back bungo
What they did to my Khepri’s sting. The power of Thorn in the palm of your hand and all primaries reloaded faster. They give reload to warlock Ophidias and no DOT
I agree. I felt the same way When I realised hawkmoon wouldnt be the only gun with random rolla. Just was wrong and almost disrespectful of the original
I wish we had more high end deterministic loot, the current rituals are ok but there is not enough.
lol redrix didnt have complaints because it was trash
also kill clip messenger>desperado, shhh dont tell anybody
I would loveeeeee to have not forgotten back atleast as an exotic that gun did not deserve to be sunset smh
yo imagine if palindrome came back with spectacular howl
This is a genuine question, how is not requiring Outlaw a nerf instead of a buff?
What shader is on your Messenger doe?
imo broadsword is a pinnacle weapon done right, it's not op in any regard. bring back more like this bungie.
Being exotic only means that you can't put on mods, nothing more.
so messanger with desperado or kill clip is simply better then NTTE and other exotic pulse. Is there any reason to use exotic pulse when you got better messanger here?
My best adept roll has kill clip and its amazing really
Hey Drewsky, can I get a brief explanation as to how you broke that guys ankles at 0:16
How did you Bakris dodge without actually moving an inch? Do you just flick your mouse as you dodge? I NEED to know, that was dope.
Redrix was rarely used in high level Crucible, if ever, when it was a Legendary, who would want it as an exotic? The Pinnacle perks being passed on was a great idea in hand with sunsetting.
A really good example you could have used is Black Hammer becoming an exotic.
Sunsetting is no bueno. But I rather not have ppl running around with Not Forgotten. It’s too strong always has been in every way shape and form.
Crimson, pretty much.
At least crimson’s lore makes it work… but I still miss my pulse rifle Red Death.
Bro what if fate bringer can roll with mag howl?
Agree 100%. Out of spite I refuse to keep and use a Messenger with Desperado. Also, anyone else still do the reload delay for Desperado out of habit?
I definitely agree, but the problem now is that if Bungie brings back any pinnacle weapons as exotics or something like that the community will totally shit the bed. Everyone will be complaining about re grinding for something the already got and it would be a total nightmare for them.
If you made legendary into exotics that would limit your load out ! Think about it ….I thought you were smart …I was wrong
Don’t use it if you went flawless…it will burn your retina.
00:15 can we take a moment of silence for the ankles that were broke 🤣
Can Breakneck or its perk come back? I really miss that gun
Hey Drew if you get desperado and outlaw on messenger you can still refresh desperado while outlaw is active without needing to get another headshot.
i would love for not forgotten to be turned into an exotic, even in its current state
I just want my NF back as an exotic but with the prenerf Mag Howl(as a 140/150 to keep it in check tho, also the intrinsic icarus grip and 180 recoil) 🙁
I felt the same way when it launched, Redrix deserved a reprise, it wasn't broken, even prenerf, they nerfed the perk and put an iconic weapon on a different iconic from D1. It just felt like Bungie was hyping Trials up, though I really wish they can distinguish D2 from D1. D1 was a legacy, but we're always bringing content back, I wanna play something new, these content we played em years ago for hours and hours. Redrix was part an identity of D2 and Bungie destroyed its legacy to merge with something from years ago
What the hell was that mini sun at 10:15–10:22
I don’t agree with all points, but this is a terrific video which reminds me of a sentiment I have had for a very long time. Bungie’s mismanagement of pinnacles hurt players and weapons several times over and we still suffer their effects. Ultimately it resulted in sunsetting, which was a colossal failure and the lowest point in my whole Destiny collection of low points. It’s a shame and they only have themselves to blame.
Would really have loved for some of these pinnacles to come back as exotics. I would especially love for nf to come back as a 180 rpm exotic in this sandbox with a slightly tuned mag howl to stop the two taps but give it that 3 tap potential at 180rpm back.
I miss Not Forgotten just for its frame alone. Wished that came back with options for different perks besides the butchered Mag Howl
While I agree desperado should be the redrix perk I think the main issue stems from the sunsetting deblacle. A lot of people were mad that redrix (and pinnacles in general) was sunset after what they considered was a lot of effort on their part to get the gun.
Now imagine that they reintroduce 2 seasons later an unsunset redrix that you had to grind for. Some people would be very pissed off. By introducing the messenger (which is arguably better than any redrix if the perks are the right ones) they make a "totally new powerful weapon to chase", in an underplayed game mode that will force a big grind to get the best perks. Its the easy way out and from what I've seen from the community's response, it worked!
I prefer messenger than redrix cuz messenger got cool weapon design while redrix looks ugly af and i probably won't use redrix even if it retuns as exotic cuz this gun looks ugliest weapon to ever exist and sights on redrix sucks but messenger has clean beautiful sight.
What's the shader u used on the messenger as it looks good?
I would actually like to see exotic versions of past pinnacle weapons, maybe like some kind of system where you infuse the weapon with a cypher and an Ascendant Shard or something.
I don't feel the same way tbh. I never really liked redrix because of weird feeling while adsing. And messenger with desperado watch great replacement for me.
Personally I wouldn't mind the return of onslaught, magnificent howl, master of arms and other great perks for some new weapons. For example they will return loaded question main perk, and I'm all for it.