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In this video I talk about the most important surprise/missed sandbox change coming in Destiny 2 Beyond Light – a nerf to the hunter dodge cooldown! I discuss why this nerf is happening, and discuss it in relation to the infamous warlock icarus dash headed into Destiny 2 Beyond Light.
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Hunter nerf is logically sound in my opinion. Icarus Dash is inevitably going to get nerfed, but I predict we aren't seeing that now because its a much more difficult change to make. Hopefully Stasis will slow the Warlocks down.
Personally hunter dodge is way more useful than either a barricade or a rift and is on a 6th of the cool down timer when building right. This nerf, as much as it pains me to say it, was warranted and honestly won't effect it at all. It most likely needs a little bit more tuning in the future.
warlock top dawn blade needs to get nerfed.
Thank you
Hunter main since d1 but time to go to top tree dawn in beyond light so long hunter
Is that the true prophecy hand cannon? If not what hand cannon is that, I need to get one of those with rampage lol
On console the icarus dash is probably not the same as on PC as the second dodge is way shorter and you do not conserve any speed increase after.
I haven't watched a vid of yours in a while but I can say you sound so much more comfortable speaking in the vid. Keep it up man.
Titans crying because we have no mobility what so ever
Hey does noone talk about pve?
Thanks for actually explaining rather than going off about hunters lol my Hunter's mobility is almost always tier 9 so I'm good either way.
Man I really hope they dont touch Icarus Dash
Thank you for saying it.
I’m a hunter main as well
Bro the simple answer is the new hunter helmet exotic in beyond light
Icarus dash is also only available for a single subclass for Warlock, as opposed to dodge. Personally I prefer Devour for PvP but the movement option is too critical to pass up
I think a good change for Titan would be that Titan can always have the shoulder charge movement even if the melee abilitie is on cool down. If the melee abilitie is on cool down and a Titan goes to shoulder charge it will not one hit kill only do the damage of a typical melee. Titan movement needs help as they are pretty much grounded while other classes are able to use vertically imuch better.
As a hunter main: meh
Sixth Coyote is kinda ugly
Icarus dash also isn’t getting addressed right now because it’s only tied to one subclass, hell one subclass node. Hunter dodge can be used on ALL four subclasses and nodes same with titan skating. It’ll get addressed. Calm your titties.
Hunters: what about icarus dash….
That’s one class versus a class ability…..
Pretty sure they took the tracking loss away from dodge/invis a long time ago, unless they added it back?
The thing about Icarus dash is that top tree dawn still has a lot of compensatory abilities to make the neutral game strong. It may not break aim assist but top Dawn has a lot of aerial flanking ability, a decent super with tracking projectiles, and especially a long range tracking melee with strong recharge. Celestial fire is incredibly strong, particularly in solar plexus seasons and I think even without the fastest linear movement in the game, top tree dawnblade would still be a competitive and playable class. You could cut icarus to single activation before cooldown, for example, and it would still be very competitive. So I don't think it's particularly hard to adjust without making the class useless.
Does a hunter dodge have a cone? 🤔
But in all seriousness, as a hunter main, I couldn't care less. 4 seconds is pocket change and I'm kinda surprised it wasn't worse
They should nerf the Titan ouch ability that one taps.
I'm going back to my Titan main like I was on D1. I mained the hunter all D2 but I think I'm done with it. I have endured hunter nerfs since D2 launched and I'm sick of it. Hunter is the most nerfed class of them all from gwisin vest to spectral blades to blade barrage to shards to now the dodge. I'm over it! Going forward I'm a Titan again!
icarus dash is only good on pc, on any console it is absolute trash you go slower than if you were just sprinting.
Bruh hunters weren't really too good now they just nerfed it more
I find it strange that you think icarus dash needs a nerf. It doesn't make you move that fast lmao. We are talking about like a 1-2 meter gain over just sprinting. You should really note that everything you say goes out the window unless they are wearing transversive steps. Because warlock are slow & clunky feeling without them. Did hunter dodge need to be nerfed? Not imo. Because hunter is PvP centric. All they've done now is bring hunter down to the titan & warlock level of usefulness in PvP, but didn't bring titan & warlock PvE usefulfulness down to hunters level.. they've basically made hunters just a "meh" choice with that one neef. There is no stand-up reason to choose a hunter over the others in PvP now.. it felt balanced before with each class having it's niche. Now it seems like hunters are getting the ass-end. I'm a warlock main btw, so doesn't effect me much. But I did yeah it out & now the hunter is like a sitting duck with no protection. Kinda forced to use sixth coyote lol.
How is this fair tho? It's what make a hunter class unique compared to these over buffed titans or slobby ass warlocks
it was a good nerf for pvp but did you think about pve in pve this nerf really sucks
can titans pls get twilight garrison back?
I think they still need to nerf top tree dawnblade but they then need to buff over warlock classes since its either a mediocre or bad class or the godly top tree.
dodge does not break aim assist, idk what magic your doing
I think it was nerfed so Mask of Bakris wouldn't be too OP. I've seen other developers make these kinds of decisions. So that's my guess.
Dresky: hunters have the best class ability which is why they got the nerf. Me: bro have you seen Titans?
Just reduce the icarus dash to one dash instead of two?
Mhhh titans meele still no nerf ok than
It was nerfed because console players cried about it, since they can’t hit shit without aim assist. Not that dodge was broken or anything. Especially on PC.
Hunters reacting to nerfs:
"No bungie pls you're killing us waarlock op pls stop"
Warlocks reacting to nerfs:
"Our only viable subclass is getting deleted again"
"I know"
This is satire btw for all you salty hunters who are about to spam me
the nerf isnt enough tbh lol theres a reason most players use it
Bruh all of this getting nerfed is all because of pc, the movement is too fast, its not even a problem on console. Its not fair!
Omg, a hunter who doesn't get mad because they're brought to even levels
Bungie: nerfs hunters dodge.
Also Bungie: gives titan a stasis aspect slide that can slide way faster and further than any other class, and has no cooldown
I agree with the nerf personally. I feel like hunters were dodging a little too often in pvp
The Icarus dash nerf thing is so completely idiotic. They’re not nerfing it right now cause they would have to put effort into the way momentum work with the warlock jump?? They don’t have to do that they can just reduce the cool down like the did with Hunter dodge or DUH they can make it so you don’t get fucking TWO for ever single time the god damn thing recharges
They nerfed our movement, makes sense cause the new exotic helmet, because it would of been broken to just teleport across the maps which each dodge lunging you into cover and all that.
the dodge cooldown change has actually messed with my muscle memory xD
Deck building 😂
Can you explain how I get sniped while doing g a hu ter dodge ? Is it breaks Aim Assist