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Luke Smith confirmed in an interview that Destiny 2 Beyond Light expansion will be smaller than Forsaken. He also answered questions about Vendor Refreshes and Transmog. I break it all down!
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I still think beyond light is still better to be honest cuz we get a new element type
I'm not positive, but wasn't there talk of ghost shell transmog?
Good vid
I don’t necessarily understand the desire for vendor refresh. Vendor armor has never been good and I don’t want my weapons to always have the vendor themes. I much prefer the new armor and weapon sets coming from the pass and seasonal activity because they’re themed and have different looks.
New vendor armor yearly? But they can create new ornament armor skins every season?
Yearly lmfao this game is my comedy now I stopped playing and I'm glad. Armour and weapons should be refreshed every 2-3 months min not 12. The fact transmog does not come with Beyond light is also a joke. Saying lack of man power with no Activision ok but the game was garbage even with Activision from content standpoint
He had a big beard and looked like he was lacking in sleep haha
Is beyond light even worth its price?.. I mean forsaken was a good size but still quick on completion. If beyond light is way smaller then paying the price its at now seems wrong for a small story addon that will be completed in less that a few hours or so
I think that Bungie saw how people acted to the discovery in the dreaming city and they want that to be recreated
So…why is it the same price as foresaken again? What sense does that make Bungie? Content should match price.
The more i see and hear the more i think bungie seperating from activision was a mistake
I think thats bullshit if were waiting full year for dlcs now they should be as big or bigger ik its cutting down on size but good lord
Looks like I’ll pass for a while. Paying full price for less of an Xpac with stuff removed as well…. and a season….?
They can’t do one or even two raids a year. They should look into a system like strikes are doing but with new loot tables
So we are paying 40$ for a 20$ dlc size
Such a large studio, with a huge following and can hardly deliver. A shame man.
On top of when you consider that they are removing content from the game for this.
On the flip side,the sparrow changes were positive .
No it's not hard because they always had a set ready for Eververse and the season pass. This season they took it out of Eververse and put it into the dungeon but that's because it was already made but I bet they'll just not make it from now on giving us less armor overall. They could have added 3 new strikes like Forsaken(4 on PS4) and given all new nightfall loot if there's no vendor refresh. We gotta have a reason to play strikes other than mats. As for pvp with no refresh there will be litterly ZERO reason to play and there's a giant group of ppl that really only play pvp and they're getting nothing but some lackluster shared armor. Most of those vendor weapons are getting sunset so they've gotta do SOMETHING but just reissuing the exact same weapons will cause an uproar. They promised last spring they wouldn't bring back weapons with the same perks then they did exactally that this season BEFORE the old ones were even sunset. That can't continue esp since they specifically told us they wouldn't. If the vendor weapons are the same but with new perk rolls at least that's something. It's more clear than ever that losing Activision has really hurt them and may have been for the worse. And more than Activision it is the loss of Vicarious Visions and High Noon that is the problem. That combined with going f2p meaning they have to focus more on Eververse and not as much on the "free" activities like pvp, strikes and gambit has screwed over the paying customers. We've supported them from the beginning and are paying for the game. We paid for those activities from the start with the belief they would be regularly updated and we're still paying for the game now and expect those things to be focused on. It's bs that they took parts of the game a lot of us loved and made them free so they can claim we're not paying for that so it can be ignored. We WANT to pay for pvp and other core activities and it's bs we gotta share it with the freeloaders who are holding the game back. I wish D3 had just released that cost a full $60, or $70 next gen, like it was supposed to because we would have a full game's worth of content to play with, something it looks like we'll never get again. Hell we'll probably never get a Forsaken or Taken King sized expansion again.
Quality over quantity, always.
Yearly vendor refresh? And sunsetting? Same price….smaller content drop….season doesn’t come with the purchase 🤦♂️ I’m getting scared for destiny
I commented on it in your live stream the other day, but I would love a taken style darkness subclass. Ever since Destiny's taken style armor I've wanted this.
Love your content, one of the few content creators that seems to have passion and questions bungie with respect. Keep it up man!
Time for a D2 editing suite where you can submit your work in game to bungie…
im beyond disappointed that there is no vendor refresh. its been two years. theres no excuses at this stage
So basically it’s “ we can’t make enough stuff for you to grind for so we will just sunset everything annually to make you get new things that aren’t new.” I’m pretty sure the other argument was “we can make cool stuff and not nerf it cause it will get sunset anyway” and Guillotine is getting smacked down as per usual. Why were people for sunsetting again?
I can't imagine playing the same strikes with the same modifiers and the same weapons rewards a year from now. That just won't fly
Thank you for the info
I love you but you talk really slow so I will be watching your vids on 1.25. I get it’s only 8 minutes but I feel like I was getting bored half way through the vid. Still appreciate your contribution to destiny 2
I wish activision didnt let destiny go. If were gonna get the mtx(eververse/season pass) anyway may as well have the big AAA activision budget. Bungie is just an activision-indie-lite.
So beyond light is smaller than forsaken yet cost more? Wtf?
Now we know why there wasnt going to be a D3. I was holding off on buying, glad I made that decision. Bungie at this point overhypes and underdelivers.
Amazing as always Lono! I know I can visit the websites now which is great but personally, truly, I actually really miss your videos flooding my feed! I always clicked and watched and always lined up your content with all the other vids I wanted to watch.
Well at least we'll have a Taken King 2.0.
Which is fine for me, I loved the quantity and quality of that expansion.
There seems to be a lot of you commenting that are twisting Luke Smith’s words.
Beyond Light being smaller than Forsaken doesn’t mean it’s small. You all need to understand that you were spoiled during year 2 of Destiny 2. Bungie had the assistance of an entire second studio working on Forsaken with them. The man power behind the development year 2 content was tripled, which is why we got so much that year.
Bungie is no longer backed by Activision or Vicarious Visions/High Moon. They don’t have that kind of manpower anymore and there’s absolutely no reason why anyone should be expecting an expansion of Forsaken’s size for the foreseeable future.
Why do people think that bringing back old content is new content!?!?
smaller, yes. but i have complete confidence that BL will be better than forsaken
is forsaken bigger than taken king?
700 employees yet no one is able to make a new gambit gun? What are they, forum janitors.
I'd rather have 4 really good things than 10 average things
Y’all aren’t noticing that Bungie is giving Destiny 2 making major game mechanic changes. The quality of BL will far surpass that of the quantity. There is arguably just as much “content” considering all of these systematic changes to mobs, transmog, bounty changes in the future, etc. They’re not just adding content, they’re literally changing the core mechanic of the game for the better. It’s not just the DLC of this, it’s the entirety of the game in itself. Im telling y’all that this is DLC will have far better quality and story telling over the quantity of Forsaken (aside from last wish raid.)
They make a new eververse set for each
Class every season but can’t make armor for vendors.
In the vidock or whatever the traveler isnt heald maybe he will later on in year 4
no way ill be buy I just bought doom eternal deluxe edition for 50 on steam pretty sure ill get more out of that than destiny
Here in Canada it will cost me $84.99 for beyond light and seasons 12 to 15. That is a lot of money for less content.
Why is it the most expensive expansion yet then? As it doesn’t come with a season pass like Shadowkeep did it should probably be that same price.
Shadowkeep was small, more like a DLC than a expansion. Public events as seasonal contact is lackluster.
let's be honest, forsaken was so so big because destiny 2 at the start was awful and that's why they make it so big, it's not because nothing it's because the the game was in emergency and that's the only reason bungie make forsaken super big and they said there is gonna be NO more expansions in the exact size of forsaken
If its smaller than forsaken it shouldn't be the same fucking price. I am losing hope for this franchise. The loot in this game just fucking sucks man.
Rehash D1 armor and weapons, at this point I´m taking anything that is "fresh".
Bigger than Shadowkeep smaller than forsaken. So rise of iron size sounds about right