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Beyond Light and Season of The Hunt followed Shadowkeep being Destiny 2’s Second expansion since Bungie split from Activision. Beyond Light wasn’t a bad expansion, but it underdelivered on almost all fronts. Many controversial changes were made, core activities were at it’s most lacking, and loot was in a bad spot. There were a few bright spots however. The Raid, Harbinger mission, and some Stasis.
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"champion praetorians" jesus. the worst thing EVER added to the game. champions. forced loadouts in a game where so many builds are possible. yeah bungie. makes sense
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Destiny is trash in its current and former state this shit keeps getting worse it literally takes 2 step forwards just to go 5 steps back
man i still remember seeing your video on Beyond Light 2 years back. seemed like yesterday lmao and i remember a 60-40 ratio on ur like-unlike rating
but good that people finally understood it was an underwhelming expansion – huge potential marred by bs
Been waiting for this (honestly Season of the Chosen was my favorite during Beyond Light)
God I’m so glad they took Luke out of the director’s chair
I bought beyond light, beat the campaign, and didn't come back for two years 😅 having fun now though.
Sorry if my voice sounds weird. Been a little bit sick lately. Enjoy this episode of the Destiny History Series! If you’ve missed any previous episodes watch them here!
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I was looking forward to exploring the mysteries of the pyramids and darkness, why were eris and drifter there……but instead, europa is just as empty as it looked…..and the big takeaway from this expansion was “Hey look, new ice powers” lol
I think of Beyond Light as the uninspiring Luke Smith led era. The Europa guns are in desperate need of a perk pool update. And overall the Europa content completely missed the mark of not focusing more on Clovis Bray as an enemy, he should have been the boss of DSC, that futuristic shopping mall patrol zone was extremely under utilised. Also, the sunsetting/content vault decision is something D2 will never recover from in my eyes, it has permanently reduced my overall enjoyment of the game.
And the DSC raid was fun, but I my enjoyment of Destiny is forever exponentially reduced by the horrendous system of obtaining the raid exotics. I did 30ish runs of DSC and still haven't gotten the raid exotic. It is a terrible system to run an activity to the point of boredom/hatred without acquiring all the loot.
Although Beyond Light isn’t looked back on as fondly as Forsaken I still really enjoyed this expansion. It has my absolute favorite Raid (in ecstatic for the craftable weapons) Europa is my favorite Destination and I just had a great time playing this expansion and the ensuing year. Although I do understand why people didn’t enjoy it which I completely understand as some of the weapons of that era need a perk over haul (specifically the Europa weapons)
You weren’t lying, the Beyond Light episode did came out soon!
Loving the content! This is still my favorite Destiny Series on YT! I hope you get well soon!
I kinda forgot how bad it was. The lack of stasis weapons, the Europa weapons and their perks were trash and giving us an old sniper 13:41 was a huge smack in the face. Europa is such a wasted opportunity of a destination. But hey, Bungie makes damn good trailers.
Beyond Light’s launch had some of the most baffling decisions I’ve ever seen from a big game studio. Get rid of 1/3 of all the content in your game, including sunsetting guns, and then barley address any of the issues that doing something like that would entail. Of course it was going to blow up in their faces.
The content itself was fine. Europa was a great destination but I feel as though it didn’t reach its full potential. Stasis was cool yet incredibly broken on its release. Deep Stone Crypt is one of my favorite raids ever for its atmosphere and mechanics but having Taniks there was just plain lazy. I don’t even want to talk about Season of the Hunt.
I hope that soon Bungie reintroduces some the content they’ve gotten rid of and that they put some more effort into the core playlists. I started to playing in season 15 and I fell in love with the game, but looking back I was really riding the high of exploring the game and didn’t realize how dire things were content wise.
Wait what's wrong with Glassway? I really like it a lot…
Beyond Light will always have an insanely special place in my heart because it’s is kinda my origin with D2. I played D1 since it launched and loved the game so much. I stopped playing during the drought between Taken King and Rise of Iron, not because of the drought but because me and my friends were going through high school, we were all pretty busy with school, some of us working, sports, etc. and a lot of ppl just grew out of gaming at this time. When D2 launched I was interested in the game, but I passed since I knew I wouldn’t have anyone to play with. When Shadowkeep and Free to Play launched, I gave it a shot and played the game full solo. I wanted to but never did any high end content, so I did a lot of the exotic quests and played through the campaign but after I did most of that the game grew old and I stopped playing. Beyond Light brought me back to the game with the announcement that crossplay was coming. This motivated me so much because I enjoyed my time a lot with D2 in shadowkeep, I just stopped playing because I had no one to play with, but between the year of Shadowkeep and Beyond Light I made a lot of friends in college who played Xbox or PC and they too liked destiny but didn’t have anyone to play with. I fully dove into D2 Beyond Light when Season of the Chosen came out. I bought all the DLCs, the season pass, watched hours of videos to understand what changed since I last played and even had to watch some videos on things I just didn’t really understand with the D2 systems. I guess I got lucky in missing out the consensus awful season of the hunt, but even as a solo player for season of the chosen and season of the splicer were so awesome. Season of the Lost was a bit boring and lasted forever, but crossplay was finally here and I had so much fun playing with friends, even tho they were also new to D2 mostly and I had to help them out with so much stuff. Not just crossplay, but everything brought with Beyond Light and the following seasons were amazing and I love it all so much. I understand why a lot of people hold on to some negative feelings and emotions towards beyond light, mainly because of sunsetting, I didn’t experience that bad part, just the good. Beyond Light will always be special because it made me fall in love with Destiny just like a did as a teenager with D1
I feel like if you’re going to document and commentate on destiny you also need to focus on what was going on at the studio during this time. It’s important to include that in this time period of destiny, production on beyond light was starting right when the lockdown hit.Plus they were preparing for construction on the studio to be able to bring on more hires. While beyond light wasn’t perfect but it’s still amazing with the challenges they were facing at the time
Don’t preorder. Tell Bungo you’re not a gullible fool.
As a DLC, I’d say BL was pretty decent. Yes, we didn’t technically get more DLC content than Shadowkeep, but at least what we got was mostly new. The raid, post campaign and destination were all very interesting.
Stasis, although broken, was a much needed fresh take on subclasses that eventually led to every subclass getting updated and improved in some way.
As an update for the game, however, it really wasn’t that good. Sunsetting, although beneficial in some areas, was really an unhealthy solution to certain problems and made the game worse in general. Core activities took a massive hit, gear you’ve had since Y1 was made worthless and a lot of decent content, like secret missions, Annual Pass activities and campaigns, were removed and are unlikely to return.
It was really demoralizing and I really wish they didn’t make Season of the Hunt and spent more time making new stuff for core activities.
Say what you want my favorite time in D2 was Season of Arrivals:
1. We had all the content from D2 Vanilla, COO, Warmind, Forsaken, Black Armory, Gambit + Gambit Prime, Reckoning, Menagerie and a good seasonal activity.
2. The pyramids finally go there, and the story looked like it was going somewhere.
3. Nothing had been sunset really (except the three seasons Undying, Dawn and Worthy), and we still had like 9 planets (Cosmodrome, EDZ, Nessus, Io, Titan, Leviathan, Dreaming City, Tangled Shore, Luna) plus all the Gambit maps, and all the strikes, and all the Crucible maps. I don't think it's a stretch to say this was the "biggest" D2 ever was.
4. Armor 2.0, while not perfect was a welcome improvement.
5. I really liked the Season of Arrivals story. I love how the light/dark contrast was used in Prophecy (still my favorite dungeon).
6. While a lot of people found a 6-month season annoying, I loved it because it was a good season, and it gave me a chance to catch up on all the content I had missed.
I really miss the summer/fall of 2020 for D2.
Beyond Light was the moment to take Fallen-focused Strikes and add Stasis to them similar to RoI when they updated them with Splicers. At least then you get more Strikes that are different from what you’ve memorized.
I quit D2 at the end of Beyond Light because I didn't like the direction it was going. Beyond Light was the "last chance" to see whether the game was going in a good direction.
1. After content vaulting half the game, and then being told that was going to be the program going forward, I had had enough of D2. I don't like it when I am told I was renting content AFTER I paid for it thinking I bought it. D2 Vanilla, COO, Warmind, Forsaken – all paid for – all out of the game now.
2. Also while FOMO was always part of the game, it really felt like D2 became more punishing. It used to be "you just had to be there" and became "you cannot miss this". You don't have the option to just play whenever anymore. You have to play when D2 wants you to play, which is not something I wanted to do anymore.
3. Finally, the combination of sunsetting/vaulting and then having stuff we already paid for in D1 or D2 sold back to us was just bad business. I already paid for the Leviathan. Why would I want to pay for it to get a paint job in Season of the Haunted?
Anyway, I'm hopeful that someday D2 is going to bring everything back and get huge. It will have like 13-14 planets and all the campaigns available again. That would be awesome. I would come back for that.
Sunsetting killed D2 for me
Content vaulting and sunsetting 🤮the two worst things to ever happen to d2. Taking away the ability to play raids from free to play players is just disgusting to me (before they added VOG and kings fall).
It seems like new subclasses take the majority of dev time when they're introduced and everything else gets kinda shafted. It has me worried that bungie is putting so much focus on quality of life changes(which are great don't get me wrong) I just think once the lightfall campaign is over and everyone has mastered strand that the gam will not have much for people to do after.
You became my favorite place on yt for recap videos of past expansions/seasons. Binged all of your content and can't wait for Beyond Light seasons video, especially Splicer. Keep up the grind bro, happy for your growth!
Do you like bounties and quest steps???
Alright, this is probably the most controversial opinion I’ll ever make, but… Beyond Light is the best piece of content Bungie has ever made, in terms of music. Say what you want about this expansion, but the music team went all out. They’re the real MVP
Getting to play with a new ability type for the first time I'm SIX YEARS was a nice change… I don't play pvp though lol… but other than that beyond light sucked
Excuse me while I go on a long winded fond memory ramble.
I had played D1 for the majority of its life, I can't remember which but it was with either from Dark Below or House of Wolves. I played the vanilla D2 campaign but money and life kept me away from everything up until Beyond Light and Season of the Hunt. I was so upset I didn't get to play Forsaken and heard Cayde was murdered by Uldren, had no idea that he had been resurrected until I went to go to the moon after Osiris. I love story, it's the most important thing to me with a game. I grew up with pixel side scrollers and games like Silent Hill where the controls were horrendous so a game doesn't have to play well for me to like it. Bungie came out the gate ripping my heart out because of course I responded to Crow with anger initially, but the more I got to know him through the season the more I came to like him. I read about the Titan that beat him to a pulp and left him to bleed out instead of killing him and I felt incredibly guilty. Thanks Bungie! It was about that time where I really took the time to read the story cards when i went to visit him and I realized that Crow definitely did not act like Uldren. There were hints in there, definitely still the same personality, but none of the maliciousness that Uldren had even when he was working with the Guardian. Loved that whole ship of Theseus theory throughout the season. I ended up grinding my ass off for Radiant Accipiter and every time Crow says Old Light I can't help but feel a swell of pride in my chest now. I think Glint talking about how Crow had been imitating the Guardian's fighting after running with him for a few missions was one of my favorite moments in the season, that and when Crow says "I'm a Guardian" at the end of Let Loose Thy Talons on the third run into the mission. I loved the rest of the story that played out over the rest of the year but that's a whole other ramble.
As for Stasis and PvP, I feel like I was one of the few people who didn't mind it. I remember when Nightstalker came out and everyone complained in the same ways about how the tether would stop or slow people completely, the game is about movement and now unplayable, ect. All I did was put on Raiju's Harness and middle tree arc and I was not only able to walk from one end of a map to the other with my super active, the whirlwind guard allowed me to send stasis attacks right back at the user. I cheekily ran around with the name "I Eat Stasis" before the permanent names were implemented because I knew I was making people mad using their own supers against them. Behemoths are still a bit of a problem but I would generally treat them like I did chaos reach warlocks and hit them from a distance. Super use completely aside, distance in general seemed to be a weakness of Stasis. I didn't feel like I struggled with being frozen any more than I did with all the hunters using tether when Taken King dropped. I was just tickled shitless to discover my super could even block let alone turn into such a hilarious dick move counter to a problem everyone was mad at. I feel bad for the bonk titan in the first match I went in to test out the move. Poor bonk boy got killed by his own bonk and the match ended before he could get his revenge kill on me. He tried real hard though lol
For me it’s like, they didn’t even bring back all of the cosmodrome, I’m not talking about the plaguelands but the start of the devils lair strike is completely inaccessible from patrols which is stupid
Glassway>festering core and scarlet keep
You should review witch queen
D2 is so beyond fun to play anymore. The ONLY reason to play IMO is for the story on major DLC drops or if you're a FOMO person which I am not anymore. The seasonal story and events are always so dull boring and same same. Why would I pay for such un engaging content when I can watch the seasonal story for free on youtube each week and only pay for the base big DLC drop and just skip all the seasonal content which is where I'm at now with Destiny. The fact that a huge part of the community took the bait hard with a bugged telesto thinking it was some kind of in game secret mission shows just how dull boring and how the development of the game is not innovative anymore. No new strikes, no new PVP stuff, no secret missions. Just more of the same dull boring season activity of picking this ball up here and throwing it there.
I took a pretty long break from the game after Forsaken and came back right at the beginning of Season of Arrivals and I was enjoying myself. I was even blind to how Beyond Light had such a negative impact on the game as a whole because I was having fun playing with my new clan. Over time I would start to see it and now I'm burnt out yet again. Honestly this constant push and pull is getting so tiresome with Bungie.
Beyond Light was super unfinished. Still no Fish, still no use of the Darkness vanguard room on Europa. Forgotten characters.
The game literally dropped 10-15 fps on all PCs, and framerate became more unstable overall. This was addressed by multiple PvP content creators and caused many players to switch to gamepads on PC, and it never really got better after all these years.